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[Poll #1002098][Poll #1002098]

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(Please note that the poll below doesn't work.)

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Comments

[ivles.livejournal.com]

why not? it's definitely easier than S2.

[afuna]

Haha! We're opposites in so many ways! *hugs*

I personally find S2 much easier to work with, and so much more flexible *g*.

[ivles.livejournal.com]

*hugs back*

I agree with the flexibility of S2, but the truth is it's not easy to explain that to people XDDD

Back to the flexibility topic: I once sat down to determine a form of poll for people to choose what do they want in an S2 layout, I am stuck at the sidebar, there are endless of options you can make... O__o

For tag list alone, you can make it in forms of
(1) paragraph (plain and clouded, with numbers of entries in the title or after the tag name, there's also tag separator option)
(2) table
(3) list (we can make the list bullet different, we can choose whether to include number of entries or not)

Bla, see where I'm going to? Madness XDDD I wonder if I can still remember mathematical principles to count how many combinations of these options alone.

And I wouldn't recommend on trying S1 overrides, especially not Generator, it's just too confusing with all those tables in the layout! I like Magazine better, they're okay.

[afuna]

Aiya, yeah. I think that one of the reasons people are so intimidated by s2 is that they don't know where to start. You can do (almost) anything with a variety of approaches, and for beginners, it's too confusing.

I wonder if it's possible to fix that. Hmm.

I think the first time I tried overrides was with Generator. It didn't help that the table code was all split up into chunks across different textareas so I had no way to visualize what the finished product would be XDD ANd it really didn't help that I was sucky at tables! Too much nesting!

[ivles.livejournal.com]

Yeah, ever since I learn CSS, I couldn't imagine how did I managed to slice and use tables in the past. *LOL*

You should try Magazine, *cough* shameless promotion *cough*

I might want to make S1 from scracth, it's like using Pitas.com templating system.

[afuna]

I never had to do that XDD Came to the whole HTML/CSS/website thing too late to deal in tables. I mean I know there's still some stuff out there that uses tables, but it's no longer the only thing you can work with. *grin*

O_o I didn't realize you could do all that with Magazine. I thought that Magazine was table-based. It's not?

I vaguely remember the Pitas templating system. Or was it the Blogger one? Probably the Blogger one; I didn't have my Pitas for long.

[ivles.livejournal.com]

Even though people are into XHTML/CSS thing now, some still ask me how to make running text! Oh, the horror!

OMG! You have pitas? Don't tell me you also have tabulas.com? *g* Everytime I login to that place, the Filipino communities are getting bigger.

No, Magazine is quite good. When my friend ask me to make her a layout in S1, I investigate all styles in S1 style system, the only one that uses correct divs, header and also happens to have proper DOCTYPE (but I'm unsure whether it's actually complete)

You made me want to switch to S1 right now.

[ivles.livejournal.com]

what a vague response. No, the only thing in Magazine that has tables are the footer area and the calendar/archive area.

And if you activate Navigation Strip. *cough* I use it, tho.

[pne.livejournal.com]

I never got the hang of S2! S1 all the way for me.

Perhaps part of this is because there was only S1 when I started doing support; if I had started LiveJournal (and support) now, my journal would probably be in S2 and I would perhaps have played around with that more.

But yes. I think S1 is easier.

[afuna]

I think part of the reason I'm so much more comfortable with S2 is that it's closer to the languages that I know. That, and while I dabbled with S1 many years back (I've forgotten everything since then), I didn't have a chance to play with it too much because I soon got a paid account and access to s2 customization.

S1... scared me, but on reflection, I think it was generator and the way that the table code was scattered among so many textareas which I couldn't make sense of. I remember at one point just randomly adding <td> and </td> tags and hoping things would work out somehow *g*.

[richestgrave.livejournal.com]

No ticky box. Why is there no ticky box? D: Oooh, shiny third option. *clicks*

/useless comment

[afuna]

I'm sorry I let you down :( Forgive me please?

Ooh third option! Isn't it just shiny? *snuggles*

[afuna]

Lots of ticky boxes just for you!

(I think that you can't edit in a poll after posting the entry, though. The poll itself isn't working.)

[pne.livejournal.com]

I think that you can't edit in a poll after posting the entry, though.

*nods*

[afuna]

I know, but I got my hopes up when I could still click on the poll wizard button in editentry.bml *g*.

[gameboyguy13.livejournal.com]

Augh but the tickies don't work. I clicked "Submit" about sixteen times before I realized the poll was fake. :(

[afuna]

XD!

I would edit to note that, but I can't. The non-working poll triggers a javascript error in the RTE, and I can't switch to HTML mode.

[afuna]

*facepalm*

You don't need to switch to the HTML editor to edit entry text :D

[iruka11.livejournal.com]

what's with s1? ano ba diff?

[afuna]

S2 is more flexible. S1 is um -- I don't think it's as flexible.

In terms of syntax, I think you modify a template in S1 and it looks more like HTML. S2 is more like a 'normal' programming language. Less control over logic in S1. As far as I can tell, you have a couple of options, and you insert the proper tags, with sometimes variables to modify the behavior, but the variables are all built in (this is the part I'm least sure of).

No ifs, no loops, no functions in S1. Not as much fun :/

[iruka11.livejournal.com]

ah.. but that's just for paid/permanent?

[homeworldfan829.livejournal.com]

I use S1 if i'm applying a layout from somewehre else like ljlayouts, otherwise if you like the themes unmodified, i use s2.