finding the logic behind apparent illogic
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afuna_archiveI feel content right now. Finally figured out why entries in syndicated accounts occasionally don't seem to follow logic in their ordering and deletion. The entries should ideally be in reverse chronological order, and entries older than fourteen days are deleted. However, if you visit the actual recent entries page of a syndicated account, you'll occasionally see that some entries are out of order, or that there are some entries that were posted to the feed more than fourteen days ago.
No one really notices it, because most feeds update far enough apart that you only ever get one new entry per fetch, or it doesn't really matter what order they appear on your friendslist as long as they show up. And who's going to complain about keeping older entries around?
It bothered me though, because there was no apparent logic behind the (re)ordering and the nondeletion. It wasn't being ordered by the date shown on the entry, and it wasn't being ordered by the entry id either. In fact, it didn't seem to be ordered by anything that I could see on the page (that's because it in fact wasn't ;)).
The other weird thing was that the reordering/nondeletion was usually accompanied by a complaint of the feed not updating. I thought at first that there was something wrong with the parsing of the feed, which would account for the misordering (the dates were not being recognized perhaps?), and which would explain why the feed wasn't updating properly. Turns out that it was the other way around: the feed not updating is the cause for the misordering and the apparent late deletion.
In a word: "
> plus two words: "vs. entrytime" (display time? eventtime?)
In twelve words: "ordered by
> six more words: "been staring me in the face"
In other words: "I love advanced S2 customization -- hi
In more words than that, but you need to be able to see ICs in Syn, requests #800206 and #796055
And with that, I think I've investigated/ICed on/touched the last really stale request that I can. The rest of the things I can handle are only about a week old or less.
(Now it's time for me to concentrate on the stuff I need for China!)
No one really notices it, because most feeds update far enough apart that you only ever get one new entry per fetch, or it doesn't really matter what order they appear on your friendslist as long as they show up. And who's going to complain about keeping older entries around?
It bothered me though, because there was no apparent logic behind the (re)ordering and the nondeletion. It wasn't being ordered by the date shown on the entry, and it wasn't being ordered by the entry id either. In fact, it didn't seem to be ordered by anything that I could see on the page (that's because it in fact wasn't ;)).
The other weird thing was that the reordering/nondeletion was usually accompanied by a complaint of the feed not updating. I thought at first that there was something wrong with the parsing of the feed, which would account for the misordering (the dates were not being recognized perhaps?), and which would explain why the feed wasn't updating properly. Turns out that it was the other way around: the feed not updating is the cause for the misordering and the apparent late deletion.
In a word: "
logtime"> plus two words: "vs. entrytime" (display time? eventtime?)
In twelve words: "ordered by
logtime; entries fetched at the same time have equal logtime"> six more words: "been staring me in the face"
In other words: "I love advanced S2 customization -- hi
$entry.system_time"In more words than that, but you need to be able to see ICs in Syn, requests #800206 and #796055
And with that, I think I've investigated/ICed on/touched the last really stale request that I can. The rest of the things I can handle are only about a week old or less.
(Now it's time for me to concentrate on the stuff I need for China!)
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Date: 2007-09-03 03:44 am (UTC)b) I WILL BE IN BEIJING SOMETIME SOON. Not certain about dates yet, but it'll probably be around the 18th to the 22nd.
c) HI I MISS YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T LEFT YET. ;_;
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Date: 2007-09-03 11:35 am (UTC)pre-a) this is a weird post for you to choose to reply to O_o
a) Yes I do! I need to meet up with Nagy before I go, but I don't know how I will meet up with Charlie. Still have not been able to contact her :( (If you manage to get the address, maybe I could mail it? Sucky last-measure effort on my part)
b) OMG. Why are you going there? With who? WE MUST GET IN TOUCH SO I CAN SEE YOU AGAIN. Probably won't be able to stay with you all the time because I have classes, and also dorm curfew, but. BUT! (And things there shall not be as cheap as things here ahhaha)
c) I MISS YOU TOO T_T I DON'T SEE YOU ANYMORE. I SHOULD PROBABLY GO TO MSN T____T
PS. If ever you see me online but away, don't hesitate to pounce. You know I'll always have time for you <333 (Unless I'm really away in which case I'll still have time for you, but I won't see it until I get back)
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Date: 2007-09-03 11:58 am (UTC)a) I have her address; shall email it to you.
b) Going because my parents are, the first week we're in HK, and we'll probably be with a tour group of some sort. But hopefully there'll be some free time to wander, in which case I WANT TO MEET UP WITH YOUUUU. Hopefully we'll have a phone, as will you, or else it might be a bit tough arranging a meeting. D:
c) I JUST SAW YOU. 8D
...You're not still working the temp job, are you?
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Date: 2007-09-05 08:15 am (UTC)a) you haven't emailed it to me yet, and I only have until tomorrow to send it :/
b) I will have a phone! :D Shall have my Philippine number, but shall probably get another simcard while I'm in China. WE MUST MEET UP<3
c) And I just saw you *_* (Well a couple of nights ago, but that is still "just")!
Nope, left it about a month ago because I needed to get ready for China XD (But I didn't do much preparing after all *panics*)
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Date: 2007-09-05 12:23 pm (UTC)b) So I can text you (assuming I'll have a phone) or something once I'm in Beijing? (We won't be with a tour group after all, it seems, so I could probably meet you anytime. :O) But would your Philippine number still have the Philippine country code? Maybe it'd be easier if you email me your new number. :/
Only two more days, right? *panics too, just because*
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Date: 2007-09-05 05:45 pm (UTC)(I might have to do the same for Nagy's ;_; We were supposed to meet but then she got sick and it didn't push through)
b) I think so, yes (assuming you do, indeed, have a phone). I shall email you my number! Possibly post it up on LJ as well, protected of course XD
ONE MORE DAY.
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Date: 2007-09-06 01:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-09-06 05:43 pm (UTC)